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In Christ & Culture podcast with Drs. Ken Keathley and Benjamin Quinn, we explore how the Christian faith intersects all avenues of today’s culture through conversations with leading thinkers.
Today’s Episode: If you’re a pastor, leader, or parent, you’re probably accustomed to dealing with threats and challenges from one direction. But can this one-sided focus leave you vulnerable to threats from the other direction? Trevin Wax says yes. We talk to him about his new book The Multi-Directional Leader: Responding Wisely to Challenges from Every Side. Plus, Drs. Keathley and Quinn reflect on the idolatry and opportunity inherent in sports, and Dr. Kristin Kellen tells us what she’s reading right now.
- Wax’s book is The Multi-Directional Leader (TGC, 2021).
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Highlights from the Episode:
- Why you need to know your people really well.
“One of the big challenges I see… is that because social media has so connected us, and we’re online a lot, especially coming out of the pandemic… it is very easy to nationalize every problem, to nationalize every conversation, to assume that because you see online this problem happening in this part of the evangelical world or in this particular church, that this is the dire threat that is about to be a problem for you and your people and your leadership. One of the ways we can go wrong is we fail to know our people well and instead are spending so much time knowing the problems that are big and bold out there…. The most important thing you can do is to know your people really well, and to ask yourself the question: If they were to stray, which direction would they go?”
- There’s more than one way to tickle people’s ears.
“One of the temptations of a leader is to desire popularity with your people. One of the ways you can achieve that pretty successfully is if you preach really hard or lead in a particular direction in a way you know you’re going to get cheers from the choir that’s already with you. There’s more than one way to tickle the ears of people. It’s not just in watered down, passive preaching. Sometimes it’s preaching that steps on toes, but they’re always the toes of the people outside the congregation you’re preaching to.”